neopronouns and ... xenopronouns ?
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kossaicome across something that lay down distinction between neopronouns and xenopronouns ... try to look into this , but find either interchangeable use , or distinguish as effectively " human and nonhuman " pronouns . that is to say , humans make and use neopronouns , but xenopronouns represent something nonhuman , something humans just can not understand and basically must be alterhuman . suppose that come into line with term of xenogender , but then even feel kind of similar way about that , which is : wow there is no way to guarantee that someone have " correct " identity to use words , especially as broad as alterhumanity .
like personally of mindset that probably only intersex people should use shi/hir pronouns , which gain recognition from perfectly dualsex stereotypes that still to this day hurt intersex people - more in line with reclamation of slur than just fun pronoun choice . even then there is no way to prove correct usage beyond just whether person say perisex or intersex , which could be lie anyway . if someone is so set as to ignore origins and intersex frustrations , then personally think there is nothing more productive than to just ignore that person and part ways .
and some people want to analyse " xenopronoun " users for enough alterhumanity to count ...? honestly do not think that is good distinction to start with - humans can recognise and want to emulate nonhuman qualities , or cultural interpretations of such , and do pretty frequently ! sweet pea is flower , but also petname couples may use . pumpkin , honey , sugarplum , cupcake - all technically nonhuman things that people may associate with each other out of love .
when things like that can be true , just find silly to think that someone must be alterhuman to understand concept of " cupcake-like gender " - gender that is sweet , gender that may associate with large poufs and skirts , gender that may associate with bright , flavourful colours . that frame of reference might be different than someone who is cupcake kin in ways that intertwine with gender , but not wrong either in concept or morally . likewise , can therefore understand pronouns that might line up with this idea of cupcake gender - pronouns that look or sound like little crunchy sprinkles on top , that sound fluffy and airy like cake , or outright simplest idea , pronouns that simply adapt noun of cupcake .
like , that was distinction kossai remember 10 years ago - nounself pronouns exist as part of broader neopronoun category , and with adoption of emojiself pronouns , those do too .
and of course need to be on usual freedom , abolition-of-binary stuff here , but like . what exactly make male and female human genders anyway ? what encapsulate idea of " human gender " ? only way can think to express would be " genders commonly accepted among human societies " but even that is variable , and even most-accepted binary genders exist with different standards and expectations around world . just can not think of how this would be useful classification , because come back around to " humans should exist around binary " - which is utter bullshit !
sometimes people come up with words , and do not really think about what those words may say unspokenly . hard to express this sometimes as well , because even if clear as possible , people can not help ( from past experience ) but to take as attack against rights . but genuinely fully in favour of idea that gender can be anything , and of bodily autonomy for anyone to make desired changes . what criticise is not existence of genders outside " human spectrum " , rather criticise idea that there is provable human spectrum of genders at all , and that words must exist to divide these categories . this is just another useless binary .
later-day edit : someone finally explain distinction , which is that xenopronouns exist as mostly theoretical idea of pronouns that literally can not be expressed via human languages , such as pronouns that originate from alien languages of light wavelengths , or sounds that humans physically can not reproduce . while that clear up confusion of distinction , still take issue with fact that apparently this really is meant to be exclusive to alterhumans ! if orthohuman take pride and comfort in this idea as well , there is no reason why should not - this is not exclusive cultural identity or reclamation of insult and slur .
like personally of mindset that probably only intersex people should use shi/hir pronouns , which gain recognition from perfectly dualsex stereotypes that still to this day hurt intersex people - more in line with reclamation of slur than just fun pronoun choice . even then there is no way to prove correct usage beyond just whether person say perisex or intersex , which could be lie anyway . if someone is so set as to ignore origins and intersex frustrations , then personally think there is nothing more productive than to just ignore that person and part ways .
and some people want to analyse " xenopronoun " users for enough alterhumanity to count ...? honestly do not think that is good distinction to start with - humans can recognise and want to emulate nonhuman qualities , or cultural interpretations of such , and do pretty frequently ! sweet pea is flower , but also petname couples may use . pumpkin , honey , sugarplum , cupcake - all technically nonhuman things that people may associate with each other out of love .
when things like that can be true , just find silly to think that someone must be alterhuman to understand concept of " cupcake-like gender " - gender that is sweet , gender that may associate with large poufs and skirts , gender that may associate with bright , flavourful colours . that frame of reference might be different than someone who is cupcake kin in ways that intertwine with gender , but not wrong either in concept or morally . likewise , can therefore understand pronouns that might line up with this idea of cupcake gender - pronouns that look or sound like little crunchy sprinkles on top , that sound fluffy and airy like cake , or outright simplest idea , pronouns that simply adapt noun of cupcake .
like , that was distinction kossai remember 10 years ago - nounself pronouns exist as part of broader neopronoun category , and with adoption of emojiself pronouns , those do too .
and of course need to be on usual freedom , abolition-of-binary stuff here , but like . what exactly make male and female human genders anyway ? what encapsulate idea of " human gender " ? only way can think to express would be " genders commonly accepted among human societies " but even that is variable , and even most-accepted binary genders exist with different standards and expectations around world . just can not think of how this would be useful classification , because come back around to " humans should exist around binary " - which is utter bullshit !
sometimes people come up with words , and do not really think about what those words may say unspokenly . hard to express this sometimes as well , because even if clear as possible , people can not help ( from past experience ) but to take as attack against rights . but genuinely fully in favour of idea that gender can be anything , and of bodily autonomy for anyone to make desired changes . what criticise is not existence of genders outside " human spectrum " , rather criticise idea that there is provable human spectrum of genders at all , and that words must exist to divide these categories . this is just another useless binary .
later-day edit : someone finally explain distinction , which is that xenopronouns exist as mostly theoretical idea of pronouns that literally can not be expressed via human languages , such as pronouns that originate from alien languages of light wavelengths , or sounds that humans physically can not reproduce . while that clear up confusion of distinction , still take issue with fact that apparently this really is meant to be exclusive to alterhumans ! if orthohuman take pride and comfort in this idea as well , there is no reason why should not - this is not exclusive cultural identity or reclamation of insult and slur .
