crosspost from tumblr . sometimes others who mean well say things like , " traumagenic and endogenic experiences not so different after all " - and sometimes that is true . even with proof that trauma did not influence formation , some collectives do express in ways that can appear very similar , and may or may not have symptoms to associate with dissociative disorder .
but this attempt to appeal also ignore everyone who fall outside of psychological boxes , and that frustrate . some will haphazardly suggest that psychological frameworks can apply to everyone , even those who already choose to exempt - as if that choice do not almost always come from experience .
no doubt there might be individuals of such collectives who personally benefit from , say , IFS therapy - but even this suggestion is made on whole basis , to understand collective through IFS . individuality - individual memory , individual desire , individual life - is not seen as something to really take seriously : need to give reason , give purpose , give role .
various therapies for trauma could potentially be helpful to anyone with trauma , which still often include collectives not formed through trauma influence , given state of modern world and societies . but have to take into account that even if respectfully do not pathologise plurality , some therapists know jack all about how to actually help , especially with any marginalisations in play - and bad therapy can harm worse than none at all .
approaches which diminish or discard roles of spirituality and religion can lead to massive collective hurt and denial . not every experience will make sense under psychological frameworks , and that give choice of how to handle - accept or deny ? even where psychological frameworks may still technically be viable , this is still form of denial , and denial still set back progress to find harmony .
openness to explore different approaches and frameworks is good thing , and think communities should encourage this - wrong answer is never end of journey , and life will continue on even if need to step back and rearrange puzzle pieces . but this is never what actually end up happen - instead suggest this one set of frameworks and approaches as " ideal " for everyone to learn from . spirituality is seen as secondary fringe , and anything else is often unseen at all .
there is certain responsibility that need to take when make suggestions of spirituality . not all collectives who explore spiritual frameworks have experiences which line up , so might end up with some hurtful setbacks , or trigger other internal reactions like psychosis . even to genuinely seek out these experiences can be detrimental , especially without spiritual and metaphysical safety precautions . this is why kossai might talk about experiences , but not instructions on how to open gates or find bonds - need to learn more than just instructions to maintain safety .
but those who suggest psychological frameworks as answer tend to not take this same responsibility . psychology is default approach , and everyone come with brain , so feel as if can just say obviously helpful to everyone , with no such thing as detriments or safety concerns . anyone who reject just " did not try hard enough " and need to accept place in life anyways , as if that could do anything but turn further away out of spite and frustration .
( seriously ! even if some approach that never try before might turn out useful , who would want to actually try when deliver like this ? there can still be unique expressions and considerations to take into account : consider that even spiritual collectives' trauma-influenced members may not form or arrive like psychological ones do . )
there is no universal public to give universal information here , even if at times ( like this post ) might need to simplify for sake of broad-strokes communication . experiences of plurality do not and can not all fall into one set of frameworks and approaches , one set of individuality and elaboration , one set of mechanics , one set of anything . only thing which bind together is that plural approach of selfhood and identity - more than one , one of many , sometimes one and sometimes more , any experiences that fall outside realm of singular oneness - is helpful .