bosmer ~ green pact
Feb. 10th, 2025 10:50 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
kossaiwell , thoughts again .
never like in media when all of good nature people have these kind of rules . also think kind of silly that this seem apparently very strict through all valenwood , and not variable as in not only religions out here , but also other in universe religions .
so . green pact . some bosmer communities very strict with this - believe that any harvest or harm to plants is bad , and will be punish . even if fellow bosmer lay near death , and this herb could save - no , let that person die . only some naturally fallen plant foods , all animal products otherwise . or people products , if so necessary . ( maybe that is why so many bosmer live in shivering isles - prion diseases . )
but really ... look , even with magical forest shape powers from god , not everything will be perfect . especially not if hunt and eat only animals - easy to over-hunt if this is only food source , and then what ? plus animals help to control growths , spread seeds , and help keep things in balance .
without control , plants can overtake and kill each other , and fires will be extremely deadly to all life . sometimes plants and trees also get sick , and only way to prevent spread is to cull part or whole . so on and so forth , at some point forest magic can only do so much ! and also just kind of not very fun explanation , which feel take away power from bosmer .
ESO lore books explain , oh some bosmer did try to reject , and lose , and now in eternal ooze punishment . but like ... silly . understand why this would put conflict between communities , but again . overprotection is harm .
and really , really agree with those who point out hypocrisy that bosmer apparently let others waltz in to harvest from valenwood , and then bosmer actually serve as customers !
no . again - some communities . but think make sense much better for terms and followers of this pact to have variance .
some communities will only harvest if necessary for life - especially that of plant , but also fellow mer or livestock . to allow for backburns where lands need , to cut and cull sick forest life . still very important to use everything possible , and to return into nirn what is not , but not punish just to harvest .
others might not have rules on when to harvest , but still mindful - leave some for animals , and do not exhaust plants , as plants work hard . likewise with trees - do not be careless , but do not fear and oppose all change either . part of forests is change , forests live and breathe and die just as people do .
and so on and so such , for every rule there is degrees of variance and strictness . think much more interest and sensical to have variance .
never like in media when all of good nature people have these kind of rules . also think kind of silly that this seem apparently very strict through all valenwood , and not variable as in not only religions out here , but also other in universe religions .
so . green pact . some bosmer communities very strict with this - believe that any harvest or harm to plants is bad , and will be punish . even if fellow bosmer lay near death , and this herb could save - no , let that person die . only some naturally fallen plant foods , all animal products otherwise . or people products , if so necessary . ( maybe that is why so many bosmer live in shivering isles - prion diseases . )
but really ... look , even with magical forest shape powers from god , not everything will be perfect . especially not if hunt and eat only animals - easy to over-hunt if this is only food source , and then what ? plus animals help to control growths , spread seeds , and help keep things in balance .
without control , plants can overtake and kill each other , and fires will be extremely deadly to all life . sometimes plants and trees also get sick , and only way to prevent spread is to cull part or whole . so on and so forth , at some point forest magic can only do so much ! and also just kind of not very fun explanation , which feel take away power from bosmer .
ESO lore books explain , oh some bosmer did try to reject , and lose , and now in eternal ooze punishment . but like ... silly . understand why this would put conflict between communities , but again . overprotection is harm .
and really , really agree with those who point out hypocrisy that bosmer apparently let others waltz in to harvest from valenwood , and then bosmer actually serve as customers !
no . again - some communities . but think make sense much better for terms and followers of this pact to have variance .
some communities will only harvest if necessary for life - especially that of plant , but also fellow mer or livestock . to allow for backburns where lands need , to cut and cull sick forest life . still very important to use everything possible , and to return into nirn what is not , but not punish just to harvest .
others might not have rules on when to harvest , but still mindful - leave some for animals , and do not exhaust plants , as plants work hard . likewise with trees - do not be careless , but do not fear and oppose all change either . part of forests is change , forests live and breathe and die just as people do .
and so on and so such , for every rule there is degrees of variance and strictness . think much more interest and sensical to have variance .
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Date: Feb. 11th, 2025 06:07 pm (UTC)Also the idea of plants as inherently peaceful. Cuz like. If they knew the sheer amount of active chemical warfare going on in those suckers. Plants are also actively fighting for their lives and resources, just in ways that aren't apparent to us.
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Date: Feb. 11th, 2025 06:27 pm (UTC)find sort of weird when kossai is fresh off heels of morrowind too - morrowind have nerevarine prophecies , plural because ... different communities across lands interpret different versions , some of which then lose to time , or intentionally bury and change due to prejudices . still many threads in common between these , but have to be able to seek out and make decisions of what each one really mean , as do all characters in these communities .
original ideas which nerevarine prophecies build on come directly from godly figure azura , just as green pact come directly from godly figure y'ffre . think there is no reason that all bosmer should treat with equal strictness , or that y'ffre actually punish in these ways . there might be variants of ooze tales across all valenwood , but again , variants ! maybe some tales only punish for selfishness and refusal to share . maybe some tales would even punish for types of overprotection that lead to death or destruction .
feel like ESO is in weird place lore-wise because live service game , so people expect new and neat things constantly . that means probably not always most time or attention to detail can go into those things - and because ESO take place before other games , also result in fair amount of random lore retcons . not play ESO as of yet , so not to say this is unfun or entirely bad game , but definitely have to think harder about lore and events sometimes .