another failure of dream lucidity

[kossai]

after many years of journal out dreams , of course see patterns in dream language , and knowledge of those patterns can help to become lucid . unfortunately , can rarely do anything with that lucidity .

exhibit 937 : gain lucidity after realisation that computer continue to fuck up , despite apparently fix problem , which is surefire dream sign - technology never work right , even when there is no reason to not . decide to take advantage of this , and shapeshift dream character into miensona to get new outfit design ideas . unfortunately this character just turn into broken hybrid of original appearance and miensona , then manage to lose lucidity and go right back into normal dream state in completely different scenario . 

worst part is , can not even remember what that character look like , either in original or hybrid form . entirely useless for inspiration ! have to wonder why lucidity is so hard to control . non-fronters can literally edit parts or weave entire dreams , but fronter lucidity is absolutely useless . 

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[geosynonyms]

Lucidity is hard to keep. Usually, I have to create some ritual within the dream in order to properly change things. I can still have great intentionality with my actions, but the ritual puts enough distance to keep myself from waking up. It can take some (in-dream) time to master, but it always seems to work very well for me.

Something like clapping my hands a certain way, randomly listing numbers, or just some other repetitive action with intention. In our last dream, I had to imagine myself pulling and plucking at the "strings of the universe" to manipulate myself. Just pretending I was pulling thread with the intention to change a specific thing.

Gilles.

[kossai]

hmm , maybe should think about that also ! only have 2 real successes , which is ... well , keep dream journal for about 11 or 12 years now , and originally because hope to lucid dream ... yeah , pretty abysmal track record , know enough to be able to reach lucidity but not use in any way other than … trigger wake up on accident . :P

recently even try to get one of experienced dream-weavers to fall asleep in front and see if that might have any impact , so of course was not even able to stay asleep that night , and get angry note in place of dream journal entry . personally wonder if maybe try too hard sometimes , like put in too much " physical " force ... if that make some kind of sense !

[geosynonyms]

Yes, I get what you mean! I have been trying to lucid dream for 8 or 9 years now, have done it three times plus many cases of sleep paralysis (that I have learned to manage very well, all things considered!). Every time has never had any intention behind it. It happens when I have stuck to a sleep routine naturally without the intention to be lucid, which is frustrating! But I have decided to focus mostly on healthy, regular sleep and dream tracking without the explicit intention to go lucid. Works for me! I have had to stop existing in lucid dream spaces for my own health, so I am unsure if what I experience is common at all, ha!

[kossai]

oh yeah , definitely start journal with intention to learn how to lucid dream , but eventually continue just for fun - lots of ridiculous sentences written in there - and occasionally , actually helpful to understand where mind is at :P

learn enough from journal to occasionally become lucid , but then never able to control ... have awareness , but still on rails ! telekinesis utterly fail , shapeshift is half-functional at best , unable to make changes in actual world ...